Math on the Hymn Boards (Part 1)

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Joey Stanley

Published

October 9, 2024

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October 9, 2024

When I was a teenager, my brother got up to the pulpit on during Fast and Testimony. This was a highly unusual thing for him. In fact, I can’t remember as single other time when he did that. We all recognized this and were eagerly waiting to hear him publicly bear his testimony for the first time. What he said though, no one anticipated.

“I just got up here because I wanted to point out that the hymns today are a subtraction equation. The first minus the second is the third. That’s all.”

We all quickly did the math in our head and, sure enough, he was right. I have no idea if my brother checked every week for math equations, or if he happened to notice this one. But I’ve been thinking about this recently and have been curious to see how often this happens. So, this blog post looks at math equations and other numeric patterns displayed on hymn boards. I realized though that I had way too many ideas to explore, so this will be just the first of several blog posts on this topic.

Math on three-hymn Sundays

I’ll start off with math on Sundays like the one my brother noticed, those with just three hymns. The interesting constraint about this is the sacrament hymn. Because the second hymn is almost always in the 169–196 range, that really limits how often math can occur. Let’s take a look anyway. I have data from 26,030 sacrament meetings, but for now I’ll look at the 15,184 that have just three: an opening hymn, a sacrament hymn, and a closing hymn.

I want to first start of by considering how likely something like this is. I’m going to assume we’re only using the 341 hymns in the hymnal, that a ward sings one of the 28 hymns in the 169–196 range for the sacrament hymn, and not those hymns as the opening and closing hymns. It turns out there are 4,050 ways to have a subtraction problem displayed on the hymn board. The numbers are the same for addition problems, just with the opening and closing hymns swapped. But of those, which are most likely to happen?

I cross referenced the hymn numbers from all 4,050 possibilities with the overall frequency of the hymns based on the 26,030 I have. The most likely case is I Believe in Christ (#134) as the opening hymn, God, Our Father, Hear Us Pray (#170) as the sacrament hymn, and Teach Me to Walk in the Light (#304) as the closing hymn. It’s lightly more probable to see those as an addition equation than a subtraction one since Teach Me to Walk in the Light (#304) is more likely a closing hymn in general.

If we just consider the 341 hymns, there are actually two ways to see multiplication or division problems. It could happen by singing The Spirit of God (#2) with either As Now We Take the Sacrament (#169) and America the Beautiful (#338) or with God, Our Father, Hear Us Pray (#170) and The Star-Spangled Banner (#340). Both of these are not too improbable. The first is more common than 4,010 of the addition or subtraction ones and the second is still in the 97th percentile for most likely combinations. But, either one of them occurring would only happen about once every 43,200 sacrament meetings. So, still pretty rare.

I won’t bog you down with the details of other possibilities, but there are many that seem reasonably plausible. Let’s look at what actually did happen.

Subtraction

Let’s look at cases like the one in my ward that Sunday. How often do we see meetings where the opening hymn number minus the intermediate hymn number equals the closing hymn number? As it turns out, a subtraction problem was inadvertently displayed on the hymn board 9 times! Here they are:

date location Opening Sacrament = Closing
July 30, 2017 Utah We Are All Enlisted (250) As Now We Take the Sacrament (169) Press Forward, Saints (81)
September 24, 2017 Utah Behold! A Royal Army (251) O God, the Eternal Father (175) God of Our Fathers, We Come unto Thee (76)
February 12, 2017 Alberta, Canada Come Away to the Sunday School (276) O God, the Eternal Father (175) Guide Me to Thee (101)
May 05, 2024 Utah I Know My Father Lives (302) 'Tis Sweet to Sing the Matchless Love (177) How Gentle God's Commands (125)
September 07, 2014 California Teach Me to Walk in the Light (304) Father in Heaven, We Do Believe (180) Be Still, My Soul (124)
May 28, 2017 Utah Called to Serve (249) In Remembrance of Thy Suffering (183) Rejoice, the Lord Is King! (66)
August 28, 2016 Utah The Light Divine (305) Again We Meet Around the Board (186) Come, We That Love the Lord (119)
October 25, 2015 Arizona In Our Lovely Deseret (307) Behold the Great Redeemer Die (191) Come, Follow Me (116)
February 12, 2017 Wyoming Love One Another (308) How Great the Wisdom and the Love (195) Our Savior's Love (113)

Two things worth noting. First, as rare as this is, amazingly, two of them occurred on the same day, Februray 12th, 2017! Second, there was another worth mentioning. A ward in France sang the hymns 152, 113, and 26, which are not a math problem. But if we look at the English translations of those hymns, the hymn numbers of those three hymns do indeed make a subtraction problem! They were We Love Thy House, O God (#247), How Great the Wisdom and the Love (#195), and The Day Dawn Is Breaking (#52). It may be the case that the numbers from one sacrament meeting, when translated into another language, make math, but I’m not going to consider all possibilities between all pairs of languages.

Addition

Let’s move on to addition problems. Even though they’re mathematically equally probable as subtraction problems, they occurred almost twice as often as subtraction problems. Here are the nineteen instances when an additional problem was accidentally displayed on the hymn board.

date location Opening + Sacrament = Closing
May 14, 2017 Wyoming More Holiness Give Me (131) As Now We Take the Sacrament (169) Families Can Be Together Forever (300)
March 26, 2023 Idaho We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet (19) O God, the Eternal Father (175) There Is a Green Hill Far Away (194)
March 01, 2015 Utah Be Thou Humble (130) O Lord of Hosts (178) Love One Another (308)
November 19, 2023 Idaho Lead Me into Life Eternal (45) O Lord of Hosts (178) Have I Done Any Good? (223)
March 29, 2015 Northern Territory, Australia How Great Thou Art (86) O Lord of Hosts (178) Hark, All Ye Nations! (264)
November 27, 2016 Georgia Dearest Children, God Is Near You (96) Jesus of Nazareth, Savior and King (181) As I Search the Holy Scriptures (277)
August 10, 2008 Washington Our Savior's Love (113) We'll Sing All Hail to Jesus' Name (182) O Love That Glorifies the Son (295)
August 28, 2016 Nevada Come, Follow Me (116) God Loved Us, So He Sent His Son (187) Keep the Commandments (303)
October 22, 2017 Texas The Day Dawn Is Breaking (52) God Loved Us, So He Sent His Son (187) Choose the Right (239)
April 30, 2017 Utah God of Our Fathers, Whose Almighty Hand (78) He Died! The Great Redeemer Died (192) I'll Go Where You Want Me to Go (270)
May 17, 2015 California Praise to the Man (27) I Stand All Amazed (193) Lord, I Would Follow Thee (220)
September 21, 2014 California Come, Ye Children of the Lord (58) I Stand All Amazed (193) Behold! A Royal Army (251)
November 12, 2023 Ohio All Creatures of Our God and King (62) There Is a Green Hill Far Away (194) As Zion's Youth in Latter Days (256)
September 04, 2016 Utah Rejoice, the Lord Is King! (66) There Is a Green Hill Far Away (194) Who's on the Lord's Side? (260)
October 09, 2016 Utah With Songs of Praise (71) There Is a Green Hill Far Away (194) Arise, O God, and Shine (265)
June 04, 2017 Maryland Glory to God on High (67) Jesus, Once of Humble Birth (196) Go Forth with Faith (263)
May 28, 2017 Monrovia, Liberia Sing Praise to Him (70) Jesus, Once of Humble Birth (196) The Time Is Far Spent (266)
May 12, 2024 Unknown I Need Thee Every Hour (98) Jesus, Once of Humble Birth (196) Love at Home (294)

There was another case like the one in France, where the numbers when referring to their equivalents in the English hymnal, were an addition problem, but this time in Argentina. The case where the location is unknown was contributed by a person on social media, so I don’t have where they’re from.

Overall probability

So, of the 15,184 chances where math like this could happen, there was a subtraction problem 10 times and an addition problem 20 times. (I checked for the multiplication and division ones and I didn’t see any.) That means math happened about once every 506 sacrament meetings, or about once every decade or so.

Math on four-hymn Sundays

When there are four numbers to work with, the number of possible ways math could happen goes up quite a bit. I’m not a mathematician or logician, so I’m not going to entertain every concievable possibility. Instead, I’ll just focus on these four possibilities

Opening + Sacrament + Intermediate = Closing

Opening + Sacrament = Intermediate + Closing

Opening = Sacrament + Intermediate + Closing

Opening = Sacrament - Intermediate - Closing

In other words, we’re looking at either adding hymn numbers together or subtracting them and then moving the equals sign to each of the three locations. Much to my surprise, all of these possibilities are attested in my data! Let’s look at each one.

The first two is where the opening, sacrament, and intermediate hymns equal the closing hymn. This was found three times in my data:

date location Opening Sacrament Intermediate Closing
September 17, 2017 England, United Kingdom High on the Mountain Top (5) Upon the Cross of Calvary (184) How Firm a Foundation (85) The Iron Rod (274)
February 11, 2018 Alberta, Canada High on the Mountain Top (5) In Memory of the Crucified (190) The Day Dawn Is Breaking (52) We Love Thy House, O God (247)
September 08, 2024 Idaho Come, O Thou King of Kings (59) 'Tis Sweet to Sing the Matchless Love (176) Come, Listen to a Prophet's Voice (21) As Zion's Youth in Latter Days (256)

Next are cases where the opening plus the sacrament equal the intermediate plus the closing. This happened 25 times.

date location Opening Sacrament Intermediate Closing
March 24, 2013 Utah Awake and Arise (8) O Savior, Thou Who Wearest a Crown (197) Israel, Israel, God Is Calling (7) That Easter Morn (198)
August 10, 2014 South Dakota On This Day of Joy and Gladness (64) He Died! The Great Redeemer Died (192) Nearer, Dear Savior, to Thee (99) Thy Spirit, Lord, Has Stirred Our Souls (157)
March 15, 2015 Iowa Did You Think to Pray? (140) 'Tis Sweet to Sing the Matchless Love (177) Lead, Kindly Light (97) Lord, I Would Follow Thee (220)
July 19, 2015 Utah Come, Sing to the Lord (10) He Died! The Great Redeemer Died (192) Jesus, the Very Thought of Thee (141) Raise Your Voices to the Lord (61)
December 25, 2016 Northern Territory, Australia Hark! the Herald Angels Sing (209) Jesus, Once of Humble Birth (196) Joy to the World (201) Silent Night (204)
March 26, 2017 Washington The Day Dawn Is Breaking (52) There Is a Green Hill Far Away (194) High on the Mountain Top (5) Count Your Blessings (241)
April 09, 2017 Virginia Faith of Our Fathers (84) God, Our Father, Hear Us Pray (170) Called to Serve (249) High on the Mountain Top (5)
April 30, 2017 Utah Abide with Me! (166) In Remembrance of Thy Suffering (183) On This Day of Joy and Gladness (64) God Moves in a Mysterious Way (285)
June 11, 2017 North Carolina Master, the Tempest Is Raging (105) Jesus, Once of Humble Birth (196) Abide with Me! (166) My Redeemer Lives (135)
July 30, 2017 New York Come, Come, Ye Saints (30) With Humble Heart (171) They, the Builders of the Nation (36) Abide with Me; 'Tis Eventide (165)
July 30, 2017 Oregon Israel, Israel, God Is Calling (7) As Now We Take the Sacrament (169) God of Our Fathers, We Come unto Thee (76) Nearer, My God, to Thee (100)
August 20, 2017 Idaho God Speed the Right (106) We'll Sing All Hail to Jesus' Name (182) Lead Me into Life Eternal (45) Let Us All Press On (243)
August 27, 2017 Utah Today, While the Sun Shines (229) As Now We Take the Sacrament (169) Come Along, Come Along (244) Father, This Hour Has Been One of Joy (154)
October 15, 2017 Oregon Teach Me to Walk in the Light (304) As Now We Take the Sacrament (169) Love One Another (308) Abide with Me; 'Tis Eventide (165)
October 22, 2017 Utah There Is Sunshine in My Soul Today (227) Jesus of Nazareth, Savior and King (181) I Am a Child of God (301) Lord, Accept Our True Devotion (107)
November 12, 2017 Tennessee All Creatures of Our God and King (62) In Remembrance of Thy Suffering (183) For the Beauty of the Earth (92) Lord, We Ask Thee Ere We Part (153)
November 26, 2017 Utah We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet (19) Jesus, Once of Humble Birth (196) The Lord My Pasture Will Prepare (109) God Speed the Right (106)
December 24, 2017 Utah Hark! the Herald Angels Sing (209) Jesus, Once of Humble Birth (196) Joy to the World (201) Silent Night (204)
February 18, 2018 Utah The Lord Is My Light (89) 'Tis Sweet to Sing the Matchless Love (176) When Faith Endures (128) Testimony (137)
May 19, 2019 Utah The Iron Rod (274) Gently Raise the Sacred Strain (146) Let the Holy Spirit Guide (143) As I Search the Holy Scriptures (277)
January 08, 2023 Idaho Joseph Smith's First Prayer (26) God, Our Father, Hear Us Pray (170) The Lord Is My Light (89) Lord, Accept Our True Devotion (107)
May 28, 2023 Nevada Redeemer of Israel (6) Behold the Great Redeemer Die (191) How Gentle God's Commands (125) Praise to the Lord, the Almighty (72)
June 25, 2023 Nevada Battle Hymn of the Republic (60) How Great the Wisdom and the Love (195) The Lord Is My Light (89) Abide with Me! (166)
January 21, 2024 Nevada Praise to the Lord, the Almighty (72) Jesus of Nazareth, Savior and King (181) Redeemer of Israel (6) We Love Thy House, O God (247)
June 09, 2024 Nevada Guide Us, O Thou Great Jehovah (83) Upon the Cross of Calvary (184) Jesus, Savior, Pilot Me (104) Lord, Dismiss Us with Thy Blessing (163)

Last on the list additions are cases where the the opening equals the sum of the other three. This happened just once.

date location Opening Sacrament Intermediate Closing
September 11, 2011 Colorado We Are All Enlisted (250) O God, the Eternal Father (175) Israel, Israel, God Is Calling (7) A Mighty Fortress Is Our God (68)

And finally, for a subtraction-based case that isn’t equal to the others, here are the two times when the opening minus the sacrament minus the intermediate equals the closing.

date location Opening Sacrament Intermediate Closing
August 27, 2023 Utah Now Let Us Rejoice (3) Father in Heaven, We Do Believe (180) Dearest Children, God Is Near You (96) Press Forward, Saints (81)
September 10, 2023 Utah O Ye Mountains High (34) In Remembrance of Thy Suffering (183) We Thank Thee, O God, for a Prophet (19) Be Thou Humble (130)

Overall probability

So, with four hymns, there are many more ways that math could happen. And it seems like it does happen every once in a while. Overall, one of these four patterns happened 31 times out of 8,640 four-hymn meetings, or in about 0.36% of them. That means, you might see one of these four about once every 6 years. So, not too unusual.

Increasing and Decreasing

The last pattern I want to look at is more just a pattern: how often are all the hymns in increasing order or in decreasing order. It turns out this is much more common than the math ones discussed above.

For Sundays with four hymns, I have 512 instances of all increasing numbers and 252 instances of all decreasing numbers. Combined, this occurs about 9% of the time, or once every 11 times you sing four hymns. So, really not too uncommon.

Just probability-wise, it’s far more likely to see all increasing numbers or all decreasing numbers on three-hymn Sundays because there are three numbers to work with instead of four. This makes sense if you think about it. The sacrament hymn will be close to the middle. (I think it’s by design so that the book is most often opened to the middle.) The opening hymn is going to be either lower than it or higher than it. As long as the closing hymn is the opposite, then we’re good. So far, I’ve seen 2,934 instances of three increasing numbers and 2,202 instances of three decreasing numbers. Combined, this occurs about 34% of the time, or once every 3 times you sing three hymns. So, really actually quite common.

For what it’s worth, the odds of this happening has gone up a little bit recently because the new hymns’ numbers are all greater than the old hymns’ numbers. It seems to occur about 3.8% more often with three-hymn Sundays and 1.2% more often with four-hymn Sundays.

Conclusion

This just a silly post that says nothing about hymns and who or why they’re chosen. But it is fun to think about possible math that could be done on the hymn numbers diplayed on the hymn board.